# Projucer crash after startup **URL:** \ **Category:** The Projucer\ **Created:** [November 16, 2018, 10:41am UTC](https://forum.juce.com/t/projucer-crash-after-startup/30400 "2018-11-16T10:41:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![asimilon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/forum.juce.com/asimilon/32/4235_2.png) [@asimilon](https://forum.juce.com/u/asimilon)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 10:41am UTC](https://forum.juce.com/t/projucer-crash-after-startup/30400/1 "2018-11-16T10:41:02Z")
I’ve had a number of crashes recently, a seemingly random short period of time after opening an existing project in the Projucer (5.3.2, macOS 10.12.6) I’m not quite ready to upgrade, so the issue may be fixed already, but here is crash report in case it gives any clues about something more deep seated [https://pastebin.com/cc7zkLpP](https://pastebin.com/cc7zkLpP) edit: and another [https://pastebin.com/y4t8KiRW](https://pastebin.com/y4t8KiRW) ---
**Author:** ![DaveH](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/forum.juce.com/daveh/32/4924_2.png) [@DaveH](https://forum.juce.com/u/DaveH)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://forum.juce.com/t/projucer-crash-after-startup/30400/2 "2018-11-17T15:24:55Z")
Have you tried compiling it and running in the bebugger? ---
**Author:** ![asimilon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/forum.juce.com/asimilon/32/4235_2.png) [@asimilon](https://forum.juce.com/u/asimilon)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.juce.com/t/projucer-crash-after-startup/30400/3 "2018-11-18T00:00:22Z")
Nope. I suspect it’s something to do with the update being available as it’s only happened since 5.4.0 been available, and it doesn’t really cause me enough issue to expend time investigating, but I figured JUCE team might be interested to know there is an issue.