# Tracktion first note not playing when looping **URL:** \ **Category:** Tracktion Engine\ **Created:** [October 29, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://forum.juce.com/t/tracktion-first-note-not-playing-when-looping/42483 "2020-10-29T17:40:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pavlentuss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@Pavlentuss](https://forum.juce.com/u/Pavlentuss)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://forum.juce.com/t/tracktion-first-note-not-playing-when-looping/42483/1 "2020-10-29T17:40:20Z")
Hey. I notice that in tracktion engine when you turn looping on, and you play edit from the start, if there is midi clip positioned at 0.0 and midi notes at 0.0 then this notes not playing, but if you turn looping off, these first notes will play. Can someone please tell me how to fix this or maybe point on some other discussion. Also I’ve noticed that in tracktion app there is same behavior ---
**Author:** ![dave96](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/forum.juce.com/dave96/32/8487_2.png) [@dave96](https://forum.juce.com/u/dave96)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://forum.juce.com/t/tracktion-first-note-not-playing-when-looping/42483/2 "2020-10-29T17:47:00Z")
Is this just with a specific plugin? ---
**Author:** ![Pavlentuss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@Pavlentuss](https://forum.juce.com/u/Pavlentuss)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://forum.juce.com/t/tracktion-first-note-not-playing-when-looping/42483/3 "2020-10-29T17:54:55Z")
No just sending midi to external midi devices, standalone Reaktor 6 in my case, but same with any device ---
**Author:** ![Pavlentuss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@Pavlentuss](https://forum.juce.com/u/Pavlentuss)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 5:57pm UTC](https://forum.juce.com/t/tracktion-first-note-not-playing-when-looping/42483/4 "2020-10-29T17:57:28Z")
Also analysing midi output with renoise midi monitor, seems like note off of this first note is playing, but note on is not ---
**Author:** ![dave96](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/forum.juce.com/dave96/32/8487_2.png) [@dave96](https://forum.juce.com/u/dave96)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://forum.juce.com/t/tracktion-first-note-not-playing-when-looping/42483/5 "2020-10-29T18:09:00Z")
Have you tried this in Waveform by any chance? That’s a good place to check it’s not something in user code. ---
**Author:** ![Pavlentuss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@Pavlentuss](https://forum.juce.com/u/Pavlentuss)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.juce.com/t/tracktion-first-note-not-playing-when-looping/42483/6 "2020-10-29T18:23:10Z")
Yeah, tried now with waveform, same thing ---
**Author:** ![Pavlentuss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@Pavlentuss](https://forum.juce.com/u/Pavlentuss)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.juce.com/t/tracktion-first-note-not-playing-when-looping/42483/7 "2020-10-29T18:40:27Z")
Want to clarify that note is not playing only when you position playhead right on first loop point, like that, but on any bar actually ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/juce/original/2X/1/1a8cb497d44994ad503f4d173239ab391e753d88.jpeg) And when you hit play they’re not playing first time, but when playhead loops back then they’ll play ---
**Author:** ![Pavlentuss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@Pavlentuss](https://forum.juce.com/u/Pavlentuss)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://forum.juce.com/t/tracktion-first-note-not-playing-when-looping/42483/8 "2020-10-29T18:49:27Z")
Also there is the case when looping turned off, and edit is playing and you hit rewind to the start of the edit, those notes also will not play ---
**Author:** ![dave96](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/user_avatar/forum.juce.com/dave96/32/8487_2.png) [@dave96](https://forum.juce.com/u/dave96)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://forum.juce.com/t/tracktion-first-note-not-playing-when-looping/42483/10 "2020-10-29T19:17:12Z")
I think this is a problem with some synths that can’t handle an all-notes-off message just before a note-on. It works with some synths: ![MIDI Note at Time 0](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex026/uploads/juce/original/2X/2/23f22bf4e43b3281cbfcb16598fcb27473dc151d.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Pavlentuss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@Pavlentuss](https://forum.juce.com/u/Pavlentuss)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://forum.juce.com/t/tracktion-first-note-not-playing-when-looping/42483/11 "2020-10-29T19:55:54Z")
Interesting…thank you for the hint, think I could try to hack this behaviour now