I get a lot of your points, and I wasn’t suggesting the JUCE team should be merging PRs without discussion and modification where necessary. What I’m suggesting is that PRs should get some kind of a response even if it’s a “thanks we’ll take a look at some point”. If the team do not have the resources to respond to and review PRs then it should be made clear before someone puts the effort into creating one; or switch off the facility completely. I also understand there is overlap between GitHub and the forum.
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Can we be confident that the GPL option will remain in the future?
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That was not the slightest what I wrote. I appreciate the work you are doing, and I see very valuable contributions. With no word I commented the quality of your code (I never seen it anyway, so why would I?). And I am aware of Yair and the other people at SoundRadix’ work, which is great.
I never sat in the chair to give a verdict of what should or shouldn’t be in the codebase.
All I am saying, that there should be a communication about additions beforehand, so the direction of the framework stays consistent.
Nothing more.
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The GPL option will remain! This is something the JUCE team cares a lot about.
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I’m a JUCE customer and I’m having urgent problems with the with the pace PACE infrastructure since a few days, especially with AAX signing. Where and how I can get support? (support-area is greyed out at PACE central).
Hi,
I am not as frequent a poster as a lot of you guys and I realize this is a little rude for me to post. Does JUCE turn over a profit that Is greater than what it was sold for? Users are saying Roli purchased JUCE for Jules. If JUCE is not a bargain then what other motives come into the purchase? People trust JUCE, but PACE receives a lot of unwarranted anger, that probably would be better directed at the hackers. Will PACE provide better integration into JUCE? Will there ever be disadvantages choosing not to use PACE as your software protection when programming with JUCE?
Cheers
ps I know asking this on the amazing JUCE forum everyone will be kind in this discussion. I wish other forums were this well respected?
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That’s OT, but in the license manager, open the PACE central, there you will find links to support.
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Thanks for your reply. I have a few more question.
First, since PACE is an American company, will you guys move to American, or stay in U.K. and working remote with PACE?
Second, since Raw Material Software is a company founded by Jules (if I rememer it correctly), is he still a shareholder of the company after this acquisition? And who’s now the CEO or president of the company?
Sorry, I went to check myself, and found out the support in PACE central is indeed greyed out. The only thing I found is
https://www.ilok.com/#!support
Maybe a leftover from the maintenance they announced…
BTW. just to remind readers, I left ROLI over a year ago, so I don’t speak on their behalf. I am just an engaged user, just like anybody else here.
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That’s not rude at all; we’ve seen similar concerns shared by people on different forums.
PACE have been embedded in the audio software industry for longer than JUCE itself and they understand the importance of a strong and open community; the more people that are creating software the larger their addressable market is. Anything that would raise the barrier for people getting started (like requiring an iLok or any other specific software protection service) would ultimately backfire. It’s also important to note that a large number of PACE’s existing customers use JUCE, so when JUCE is improved the revenues of those customers increases and PACE benefits as well. By providing a solid foundation from which JUCE can grow PACE has made the economic future of everyone using JUCE much more secure. ROLI’s financial situation is less robust - you can find some of the details if you do a little digging online.
There’s certainly some merit in making PACE’s tools easier to use with JUCE. If you’re creating AAX plug-ins then you will need to use their SDK anyway, but at the moment the JUCE team is fully occupied with delivering JUCE 6.
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The JUCE team, and Raw Material Software Limited, will remain in the UK.
You can see the details of RMSL in Companies House. Allen, Andrew and myself are directors.
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As a side note, UVI has been working with Pace for more than 15 years and they are clearly trustworthy people and are not only “commercial” guys. I honestly don’t mind them to take control of Juce and I think it’s for the best. (UVI is a Juce users since 2008 FWIW)
There probably won’t be any fancy NAMM Juce presentation anymore but honestly I prefer this kind of money to be spent in the development aspect 
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I have no good feelings about this. But the sun is shining right now, so I will go out.
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While I still have a bit negative initial reaction to this, I can see the point that things could have ended up even worse for JUCE.
PACE will have to be careful to not raise concerns for developers and end users who don’t want anything to do with the original PACE technologies like iLok.
I do understand there are developers and even end users who may even like PACE/iLok, but it would be a mistake to assume that is the case all over the board.
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Brace yourselves prices are going to go up 
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IIuc we we’ve seen so far is the opposite?
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IIuc we we’ve seen so far is the opposite?
$40 > $35
$130 > $65
How is that the opposite of prices going up?
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Ok maybe you have a point, but note that the tiers themselves have changed. What I took from the post I linked to was
Congrats to the crew! Hopefully this will help increase bandwidth in the near future and churn out more crazy stuff.
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If you happen to be between 200k and 500k funding per year, the price went down from 65 to 40 p.a.
But obviously it is a mixed calculation for everybody individually…
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