Steinberg closing down VST2 for good


#83

Implement a Max4Live device, I guess?


#84

ha!


#85

But I would guess that VST3 support can’t be too far from being added to Live…Unless they have some seriously bad problems going on in their code base.


#86

Yes - I’m amazed there’s no actual news from them on this. I’ve got a potential client who is going to be in a spot of bother unless they sort something out here.

Failing that maybe an Ableton plugin format that looks a lot like VST2 would be fine :wink: Maybe with an MIT license :slight_smile:


#87

Not another format to test, please.


#88

Well it’s not so bad if it’s Ableton. At least it loads quickly (I’m looking at you Avid…)


#89

Would be nice keeping some log about which hosts only supports VST2:

  • Ableton Live
  • ACID / Vegas (* announced VST3 support coming soon)
  • Audacity
  • AudioMulch
  • Ardour (eg. Harrison Mixbus, Podium and forks of it…)
  • Bidule
  • Cantabile
  • DeVinci Resolve
  • Deckadance
  • Goldwave
  • LLMS
  • MultiTrackStudio
  • Native Instruments (Maschine for example)
  • OpenMPT
  • PreSonus Notion? (not sure)
  • Pyramix
  • Reason
  • Psycle
  • Renoise
  • VinylLab (though it seems JUCE based so VST3 can/will? be added)
  • Yamaha’s Vocaloid (though Yamaha is affiliated with Steinberg so I guess it will be resolved)

And that’s only based on VST in wikipedia


JUCE 5.4.0 - all kinds of problems
#90

Plogue Bidule supports VST3.


#91

Where on earth did that name come from !


#92

Sounds like an alien in some cult sci-fi novel :slight_smile:


#93

You can add Cantabile to that list of VST2-only hosts.


#94

Pyramix actually support vst3 since v11.1 so you can remove it from the list


#95

Bidule means “thingy” in french :slight_smile:


#96

You can also add Windows Audacity.


#97

Does this mean it’s illegal to build an app without a licence that can host VST2 as well?


#98

Yes.

Rail


#99

Damn that’s a major PITA. Thanks


#100

I wonder if they’re actually going to go after anyone


#101

Apparently so.

Must say steinberg are right off my christmas card list…


#102

IANAL so take this with a massive grain of salt. This project is binary compatible with the VST2 API, it doesn’t require the Steinberg Headers, and it’s licensed under MIT.

Whether or not you can advertise a downstream project as “VST2 compatible” using something like that is probably questionable.