Can't resize components in latest Projucer

[jas001]

Just upgraded to latest JUCE (7.0.6) and I can no longer resize components in Projucer. Same behavior on Mac and Win.

[kriskeillor]

According to some posts the projucer gui is deprecated?

How to get started: Making a GUI app with Projucer

The GUI editor is more or less deprecated and won’t be developed any further (afaik). You will have way more freedom and possibilities of placing your components when you do it by hand (by code, quite similar as the plug-in tutorials show you).

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On a related note, I have seen a couple different WYSIWYG editors for Juce, do they have particular strengths and weaknesses?

PluginGuiMagic:

How to get started: Making a GUI app with Projucer

I completely get the value of designing in a live environment. That’s why I created PluginGuiMagic (dual license) in the meantime. It is a 3rd party module that adds the missing features: more signal visualisations (level meter, analyser, frequency response plot for IIR, can be extended) more LookAndFeels (to be continued) FlexBox layout CSS-like property inheritance editable without coding while the GUI is running extendable with your own components usable in JUCE plugins as well as applicati…

JIVE:

Introducing JIVE - the ultimate JUCE extension for building GUIs

JIVE is a bundle of JUCE modules centred around the desire to have a more modern approach to building GUIs in JUCE. As well as some handy utility modules, JIVE has two main constituents: JIVE Layouts JIVE layouts provides an API to build a hierarchy of components from declarative markup, in the form of juce::ValueTrees (XML). Using popular CSS layout patterns like Flex and Grid, this API provides a powerful way to quickly and effectively build modern, flexible UIs by specifying common prope…

Melatonin:

Melatonin Inspector: inspect your JUCE components ala Figma/Web Inspector

Here’s a JUCE module I’m working on, based off of Figma’s UI and @jimc’s Component Debugger from his juce-toys: Pop the module into your project to visually inspect the UI you are building “in place” as well as visualize the component hierarchy. You can resize components in place, which lets you nudge things around while designing to get accurate numbers without needing to add JUCE_LIVE_CONSTANT everywhere. I plan to expose property display/editing for things like font size, colors… [image…

Just from reading those blurbs I would guess: PluginGuiMagic for audio and filter visualizations, JIVE for apps with a modern web feel, and Melatonin if you are a stickler for writing code (it only inspects, not saves, layouts).

I have no experience with any, I will probably try out Melatonin first.

[daniel]

Just updating to the quoted PluginGuiMagic link:
Since a month the requirement of a commercial license is gone, it is BSD v2 licensed, so it is free to be used in commercial and non commercial, open and closed sources.

I am happy to answer questions

[jas001]

That may be, but they shouldn’t be introducing major new usage-preventing bugs.

[asimilon]

Unfortunately for Projucer GUI editor users, JUCE is a fluid framework, sometimes there are breaking changes, and since the GUI editor is deprecated I imagine no-one from JUCE team is going to bother to check if any changes to the framework are affecting this somewhat niche part.
What they should do is just pull the trigger and move on from “deprecated” to “obsoleted”, but I suspect there are more interesting/useful things for the team to work on.

[sudara]

@kriskeillor

I have seen a couple different WYSIWYG editors for Juce, do they have particular strengths and weaknesses?

Your post made me think — the community is so small, yet we have people making some great tooling. Maybe instead of playing with own our toys in our corners, we should be talking to each other more, combining powers to make THE drop-in declarative component editor.

@jas001

That may be, but they shouldn’t be introducing major new usage-preventing bugs.

I feel you. Although I usually translate “deprecated” to “use at your own risk, it’ll eventually break and go away.” Well, unless it’s “deprecated” opengl on mac

[daniel]

@sudara

Maybe instead of playing with own our toys in our corners, we should be talking to each other more, combining powers to make THE drop-in declarative component editor.

Hear hear!

@sudara

Well, unless it’s “deprecated” opengl on mac

Same there, it is there, use at your own risk and it might go away.
It is already like “it will likely work, but is no longer the fastest possible. Mac hardware will not focus on running OpenGL best possible or at all”